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the buck stop, who's taking responsibility? hhs secretary kathleen sebelius again today refusing to take responsibility for what has been a disastrous web site rollout. instead, she said we all need to look forward, not backward. the problem is, she's the problem, and no amount of looking forward will fix something that was destined to fail from the get go. with more on this, steve moore, editorial board member for the wall street journal. steve, it is great to have you here. to get started, i want you to hear what kathleen sebelius had to say when she was asked directly about this issue, accountability. here she is. >> i think the most important thing is fix it, and that's certainly what the president expects, it's what i expect, and that's what we're really in the process of doing. we have had new talent in technology come in, we have new management talent, and we want it to be a smoothly-operating marketplace for every american who really needs affordable health care. it doesn't operate that way now. it's far from being optimum, and we won't stop until it is. gerri: i didn't hear the
: that was senator barrasso from yesterday. sebelius is on the hot seat this week testifying on what has been an unmitigated disaster. jonah goldberg, leads our coverage, editor-at-large, "national review." good morning you to. you've been studying this over the weekend. another crash overnight. what happened this time? >> this is one of the contractors, the data services hub which provides information to the insurers and to other government agencies, it went dark and sent everything into a sail spin. they say they will try to fix it as quickly as possible. bill: republicans are talking all weekend. they believe this is the just the tip of the iceberg. if that is the case, what's beneath the water? what's next? >> sure. first of all there is the i.t. problem here is enormous. they sent the mars rover to mars with 500,000 lines of code. this website has 500 million, which is 1,000 times more. it's a huge mess. most i.t. experts on the record, all of them off the record saying there is no way they will get this done by november. moreover, a lot of criticisms republicans have made, conservatives
. all eyes on washington today as lawmakers prepare to grill kathleen sebelius on the disastrous obamacare rollout. will she take the fault or keep pointing that finger. >> i think there are going to be a lot of fingers. no wonder these two didn't look very friendly. russians handing out goody bags that spy on people. clever. >> plus before you pay seven bucks for a latte, listen up because we've gotted best cup of coffee that will not break the bank. "fox & friends" starts next. >> hello everybody. this is tim conway, and i'm here doing -- doesn't tell me. don't tell me. friends with the fox. >> after tim did that one yesterday, then brian blum, our audio guy, said can you lit. tim conway on the show yesterday. >> he was on. he had a brand-new book out. i believe it is still out. >> people are loving it. it is funny stuff. >>> problems with obamacare, another outage plaguing the website. we are live in washington. good morning, elizabeth. >> reporter: folks in connecticut looking to make accounts ran into trouble. the federal data service experienced a widespread outage with the
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this afternoon when three house republicans slammed health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius for blaming problems with the rollout on the government shutdown. but the latest issue with the website wasn't political at all. it was another big technical problem over the weekend that only got fixed today. is it working or not? 27 days after it was supposed to be open for business, the healthcare.gov website crashed again over the weekend. it was up and running again on monday. the administration blames this latest problem on one of the 56 contractors for the project, a subsidiary of verizon called terremark which was responsible for website capacity issues. >> the healthcare.gov technical team continued troubleshooting the issue with the online creation account process. >> reporter: meanwhile, the administration had other pressing problems. a triple threat on capitol hill. republican chairman darrell issa and his house reform and oversight committee wanted a slew of documents related to obama care and the rollout by 5:00 p.m. today. that deadline came and went, but issa has more
the president. >> on location. >> health care reform. only reason we're here. also kathleen sebelius gave testimony yesterday. it was interesting. >> it was. the problems with the health care roll out along with trouble surrounding the irs, syria and nsa have left president obama with an approval rating of an all time low. a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll finds 42% approve of the job he's doing as president. that's down ten points from when he started his second term. right now 51% disapprove. for the first time in the survey the president's positive/negative rating is upside down, 45% to 41%. public pinto the gop has sunk to a new low. 22% see the party in a positive light. democrats fared 15 points better. those in the poll say they will vote independent in the 2014 elections compared to thele 28% who say they will vote republican. nicole. >> nicole, let's digest things here. president's ratings at an all time low. the republican party's approval ratings at an all time low in the nbc news "wall street journal" poll. i don't see things getting better for either side coming out o
for the obamacare website mess? well, here is what health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius told a congressional committee today. >> who was in charge as it was being -- >> the team was involved. >> who is in charge. >> michelle snyder. >> michelle snider is the one responsible for this debacle. >> well, excuse me, congresswoman, michelle snyder is not responsible for the debalkable. hold me accountable for the debacle. i'm responsible. >> sebelius apologized to the american people for the problems with the rollout and promised things would be fixed by the end of november. >>> explosive allegations against a state senator. how he is accused of youthing his kids for kickbacks. >> and the traffic ticket that one california driver just got slapped with. >> weather today was a treat with sunshine, highs in the upper 60s. how about halladay and beyond? -- halloween and beyond? your forecast next. >> this is how you celebrate halloween in style. ♪ at kaiser permanente we've reduced serious heart attacks by 62%, which makes days with grandpa jack 100% more possible. join us at kp.org
. kathleen sebelius said she is accountable for the failures. >> while i think it's great you're a team player and taking responsibility, it is the president's ultimate responsibility, correct? >> you clearly -- whatever. yes. he is the president. he is responsible. >> republicans argue the websites glitches are proof that they can't manage the health care program. >>> new developments in the white house scandal. the nsa is denying a news report that it spied on cardinals as they gathered to select the pope. earlier roman catholic leaders said they were not worried about those news reports. >>> in london three senior journalists at rupert mourdock's tabloid have pleaded guilty. that doesn't help the eight former staffers who went on trial. among those pleading not guilty are rebekah brooks and david coulson. >> a robbery at a gas station near orlando could have turned deadly. a cell phone saved the day. the suspect seen here grabbing cash from the register then fired a shot before making his get away. the clerk was hit in the abdomen. he didn't realize it. that's because the cell phone
for health and how many services secretary kathleen sebelius to be fired. >> she shouldn't be there. >> he is demanding numbers on enrollment numbers throughing a subpoena. in a statement, he said: >> secretary sebelius maintains the facts and physician aren't reliable because the site hasn't been functioning properly and that is no why she has not provided the information. she insists the numbers will be released by mid november. the administration set a goal to enroll 7 million people by march 1. >> keep in mind, 250 people in the first two days doesn't add up. >> the math definitely doesn't add up. when we did the math, they need to be doing 40,000 h 40,000 enrs to hit the mark, still, sebelius is saying the site is up and running, and they are accepting applications, although slowly. >> that's a big gap. >> indeed. brightest minds from top technology companies are being brought in to help fix the site. the obama administration is recruiting to help fix the exchange. they are arriving just in time here. the announcement came thursday after the site had been down for a day and a half. >>
health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius will testify. on sunday, healthcare.gov was knocked offline. service has been restored. >>> also on capitol hill, the directors of the national intelligence agency and the nsa will appear in front of lawmakers as outrage over spying accusations continues to grow. the nsa reportedly tapped into the phones of about 35 world leaders, including german chancellor merkel. sources differ on when the white house learned of the phone taps of foreign leaders. >>> chris brown now a free man after that weekend brawl we told you about yesterday that led to his arrest. >> a judge reduced the charges against the 24-year-old singer. we'll tell you why he could still face a lot of legal trouble. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. why would i take one pepcid® when i could take tums® throughout the day when my heartburn comes back? 'cause you o
chief set to be grilled today over failures in the system. kathleen sebelius. >>> stealing the stage from the pope. the little boy who wandered right up to the pontiff to say hello and wouldn't go. the astonishing moments now viral around the world. with the head of the catholic church and his biggest little fan. ♪ this is an s.o.s. don't want to second-guess ♪ >>> and bombshell breakup. the jonas brothers, just revealing they're splitting. now, joining us for their first and only live interview, in an abc news exclusive. why they're calling it quits. and is it for good? >>> we do say good morning, america. and when we came in this morning, the long faces of those fans outside, since last night, waiting for the jonas brothers to show up. and they will, to our studios, a little bit later. >> yeah. they were lining up all night long. >>> we have more big news in washington. as the stock market reaches another record high. that's happened 30 time this is year. the federal reserve is about to make an apparent announcement that affects everyone with a mortgage or a 401(k). >>> and mor
weeks before its launch. >> kathleen sebelius testifying in front of the energy and commerce committee. >> i'm accountable to you for fixing these problems, and i'm committed to earning your confidence back. >> in just a few minutes, the president is making a campaign trail-like speech for obama care. >> before affordable care act, these bad apple insurers had free reign every single year to limit the care you receive order use minor preexisting conditions to jack up your premium. >> all i'm after right now is keeping my plan, paying the rates that i have. >> all right, now, let's look at the latest obama care news just breaking today. first, democratic senator max baucus took another swipe at the health care law, comparing it to humpty-dumpty. more importantly, he says he would now consider supporting a delay of the tax penalties in the law's individual mandate. second, obama care suffered a loss in court today. the d.c. federal peers court struck down the birth control mandate in the law. the case is now expected to go to the supreme court. and this is the number, the number that sti
't >> connectivity issue is a problem. on saturday kathleen sebelius was bragging how well the program was working and how it can perform quick calculations. none of those calculations were working yesterday during the shutdown. blaming parties going on because they were blaming the contractor, a part of verizon, for this issue. but all the information hubs, that hub holds your social -- nothing important -- your financial information. that is now being looked at as being exposed potentially. >> you're talking about exposure. the big question is, kathleen sebelius is going to have to answer she thought a set of questions. now she is going to have to answer hub questions. then she will have to answer security questions this week. the high-ranking guy with the f.b.i., representative mike rogers, now in charge of security in the house says i've got a problem with the security on healthcare.gov. >> it was very clear to me in the hearing that they do not have an overarching solid cyber security plan to prevent the loss of private information. i am even more concerned today than i was even last week. i
picture of a keg. >> that was republican congressman grilling kathleen sebelius this week. he was referring to an ad campaign. this features a college student doing a keg stand captioned don't tap into that beer money to cover your medical bills. joining me is adam fox, director of the strategic management for the colorado consumer health initiative. adam, it's good to have you here. what was your reaction when that happened on capitol hill? when the congressman was trying to get kathleen sebelius to either give her approval or disapproval of this style of ad? >> well, you know, i don't think -- it really doesn't have anything to do with the secretary, because it wasn't coming from colorado's state-based marketplace much less the federal marketplace. so she really had no idea that this was going to be happening. this was really something that we were doing to try to raise awareness among young adults. >> all right. so connect for health colorado says 3,164 people enrolled as of october 29th. explain to us the campaign and the minds behind this. obviously you look like a young
president has it. secretary sebelius has it. but you know they won't make that available as one of the exchanges when in fact that exchange has the kinds of rules americans would like, not these new rules created under obamacare. jenna: congressman, are you spending rest of the day talking about health care, for the rest of your birthday day or is this it? a party? >> jenna, for the american people nothing is more important than getting things right in washington. affordable care, we're talking about 1/5 of our economy. certainly there are other important issues and we're working on those. we're having to subpoena documents, get documents from contractors because the secretary and the president won't cooperate, yeah, it will occupy a lot of my birthday but it is worthwhile for the american people. jenna: we understand that you subpoenaed those documents from the health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. we look forward to checking back in with you. thanks for spending part of your day with us. >> thank you, jenna. jon: for more on the political fallout on all this,
is mounting against health and human services secretary kathlene sebelius as yet another setback hits the obama care website. its data center crashed sunday, stopping enrollment in all 50 states, cnn's athena jones is following the development in the white house this morning. have they figured out what went wrong here? >> good morning, kate, it's a website crash. i can tell you the man that the president put in charge of fixing health care, says it will be running smoothly by the end of november. fought befo not before another major meltdown because of this crash. absolutely no one was able to sign up for health care. another major stumble for the problem riddled website healthcare.gov. >> it's better today than it was on october 1st, but it's a long way from perfect. >> visitors to the site late sunday couldn't apply for health care coverage a. vendor for verizon, the website data services hub quote experienced a failure in a networking component that component connects healthcare.gov to determine eligible. the company says they're working to fix the problem. >> what you are seeing h
read the memo. >> i have read it. >> reporter: on capitol hill wednesday kathleen sebelius was grilled about a memo, which just three days before the october 1st launch date warned that security testing of the site was not finished. exposing a level of uncertainty that could be deemed as a high risk. sebelius insisted that monitoring and testing is under way. >> the october 1 deadline became so important that everything else fell by the wayside. >> reporter: according to the former head of the social security administration under presidents bush and obama, who spoke to nbc michael isikoff, before the crippled site debuted some within the obama administration questioned the adequacy of its privacy protection. >> there were shortcuts taken on the quality of the information technology and they decided simply to ignore the privacy rights of americans. >> reporter: healthcare.gov privacy policy says personal data like social security numbers and financial information can be shared with local governments, private contractors, even the department of homeland security. >> we are just going to
continuous fire. kathleen sebelius will go to capitol hill and face a grilling. and more calls over the weekend for her to go. >> reporter: she'll get hammered. take a look at this. over the weekend, healthcare.gov underwent a facelift. actually, an unfacelift, you might say. that smiling face of healthcare.gov. that woman is now gone. we never knew her name. the most famous anonymous woman in america. no longer there. >> not since siri. okay, jon, thank you very much. >> okay, george. >>> now to the growing manhunt for the four escaped inmates on the run after their daring jailbreak. the men following the plumbing pipes of a brand-new jail to freedom. ryan owens is in oklahoma this morning with the latest on all that. good morning, ryan. >> reporter: good morning, robin. here it is. the very door those four waltzed right out of early sunday morning undetected. the story of how they got to the door from the inside is something you have to hear. even the sheriff hunting the four admits they're crafty convicted who cooked up quite an escape. >> they were in jail. they had all the time
-care law. kathleen sebelius is out of town on the day lawmakers have released a report showing incredibly for early enrollment figures and a few minutes ago a federal court upheld the challenge to the obamacare provision requiring employers sponsored plans provide birth control. the justices find we must determine whether the contraceptive mandate imposed, traveled the right of free exercise, a right the lies at the core of our constitutional liberties is protected by the freedom restoration act. we conclude it does. there are cases challenging that mandate and legal watchers ex will decide that issue. republicans on the house oversight and government reform committee say they have secured the totals from day 1 of obamacare's on my exchange, total of 6 enrollees on the first day and the administration meeting those released by the committee say ongoing issues, high capacity on the web site, direct enrollment not working, experienced creating conclusion with credit check information, fix enrollments have occurred with five different issuers. in response the administration says these up pee
and this is obviously a question with kathleen sebelius. it is potentially more of a question with general alexander but the confluence of the two, i think makes this a bigger and more glaring issue for sort of the president's credibility. >> right. unfortunate, but also coincidental, right? i don't think we connect these two things and say this president wants to be in the dark about things. this president is so hands off. >> i'm just trying to imagine what charles would say about this confluence if george w. bush were in the white house. >> i think that these two things are actually, in fact, separate things. i think that -- first, they are completely different agencies and time lines. the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not letting the country going into default. >> oh, h -- >> come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and pe
states and secretary sebelius, the president should have said if you like your coverage and t qualifies for the 10 essential health benefits in qualified health plan you can keep it. there are a lost plans are becoming outdated and government, those are the plans that are being canceled. those are plans that don't fit into the new, the new health caremarkket place. melissa: that is what's, that is what the left is trying to say now. if you got the plan and you were happy with it, you were wrong to be happy with it because it was junkie plan. were they junkie plans? >> they were not junkie plans, didn't contain things of 10 essential health benefits. melissa: like what. >> maternity coverage for myself i wouldn't necessarily need. melissa: right. >> pediatric dentistry. if you don't have children you wouldn't need that. the government is standardizing all these plans if your plan before as single male didn't ve ma interpret coverage that is why it was being cans he had. it wasn't a bad plan of the these are written by commercial acarriers publicly available throughout the united states a
's not the one that can subpoena somebody like kathleen sebelius. >> lindsay graham, too, is facing a -- going up against -- hang on -- going up against the tea party and maybe trying to position himself. >> exactly. >> thank you. see you next week. >> thank you. >> next, a mayor and video that reportedly shows him smoking a crack pipe. this afternoon he addresses his city about the controversy swirling around him. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love. ink from chase. so you can. man: sometimes it's like we're still in college. but with a mortgage. and the furniture's a lot nicer. and suddenly, the most important person in my life is someone i haven't even met yet. who matters most to you says the most ab
. peter, good morning. >> reporter: matt, good morning to you. kathleen sebelius is testifying right now before congress. we want to show you a live picture. just moments ago, she spoke directly to those americans frustrated by the obama care website's problems, saying you deserve better and i apologize. today, it's kathleen sebelius's turn on the hot seat, facing a highly skeptical republican-led house committee. >> it's one of those classics. either you failed to plan or you plan to fail, and we'll seek answers in that regard. >> reporter: lawmakers will be armed with new evidence of warnings about the crippled obama care website one month before it launched. overnight, nbc news obtained this status report that's been submitted to congress from healthcare.gov's main contractor, indicating cgi reported significant concerns whether the site was ready to go. one heading describes top risks currently open and says the testing time frames are not adequate to complete full functional system and integration testing activities. >> this initial experience has not lived up to our expectations or
angela merkel and other world leaders for nearly five years. followed by a few claims of hhs sebelius obama didn't know about problems of the health care website before the launch. the white house frequently has given a variation on this theme. the question, what did obama know and when did he know it? answer not much and about a minute ago. i mean not much and about a minute ago. and so now we're hearing that from other people that he did know for five years that angela merkel and allies have been -- i mean this is bad. >> the length of time that the program has been under operation or at least the lent of time it has been published with various world leaders. if he did not know, if you choose to believe the president of the united states and i believe the president of the united states, i want to believe the president of the united states. >> some reports suggest he signed off on it. >> if he did not know why didn't he know? the larger question is do we have an out of control national security agency? do we have a secret government in the shadows of government that the president of
? and it is also a question with kathleen sebelius, it becomes more of a question with general alexander, with director clapper, the figures in the national security element, as well. the confluence of the two makes this a bigger and more glaring issue for the president's credibility. >> right, unfortunate, but also a coincidence. i don't think we connect these two things and say oh, this white house, this president wants to be in the dark about things -- so hands -- >> i'm just trying to imagine what charles would say about this confluence if george w. bush were in the white house. >> i think these two things were actually separate things. they're completely different agencies and completely different timelines. the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on, ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're
, how is this playing out, juana? >> kathleen sebelius testifying on capitol hill about rollouts, problems. i look forward to seeing just how have they press it. more congressional hearings certainly to come. a lot of theory on this straight ahead. >> i was up in pennsylvania yesterday with matt cartwright talking to voters about it. he shared a lot of information and honesty with them. it seemed to work. fewer showed up who said, i learned a few things. i may not like the law but i appreciate that he showed up and explained some is things. maybe it shows public support at least in those areas of the countriment they will spend the week attack it as well. >> we had a pretty lengthy conversation as well. so i agree. juana and ed, thanks so much. >> take care. >>> frightening video shot by tmz. authorities say a gunman opened fire at a security checkpoint. miguel almagare has the latest. >> we know the suspect has been identified as 23-year-old paul ciancia. he entered inside terminal 3 behind me and opened fire, killing a tsa agent, injuring at least seven others, before he himsel
sebelius. it is potentially more of a question with general alexander but the confluence of the two, i think makes this a bigger and more glaring issue for sort of the president's credibility. >> unfortunate but also coincidental. i don't think we connect these two things and say this president wants to be in the dark about things. this president is so hands off. >> i'm just trying to imagine what charles would say about this confluence if george w. bush was in the white house. >> i think that these two things are in fact separate things. i think that -- first they are completely different agencies and time lines. the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they s
is that person? >> reporter: hhs secretary sebelius likely to be asked the same question when she testifies before a house committee tomorrow. jenna. jenna: that will certainly be big news as well. wendell, thank you. jon: we have an update on a little boy struck by a hit-and-run driver on his 7th birthday. we'll tell you how he is doing and more about the search for the driver of this truck coming up. >>> and one year ago today one of the worst storms in u.s. history slams into the northeast coast. now many residents are still struggling to rebuild. coming up, how an unlikely trio is helping one community get back up on its feet. 0 that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that acc
the lead along with secretary sebelius to make sure that the system was ready october 1st, ready to take on the massive volumes, the 4.7 million people that viewed it the first day. that's just, i think, an embarrassment for the president. >> it really is a terrible embarrassment. i think everybody would agree on that one. do you think the white house is seriously worried about the real feasibility of the president's law working at all? not just in time, you know, for these deadlines, but just period? >> absolutely. first of all, everyone can see that this is an extraordinary embarrassment. i do not concede that the president knew. you know, he's not the webmaster in chief. there are people under him whose job it is to make this work. the buck stops with him, but i doubt that he moved it and still moved forward at the same pace and speed. as far as it being a sort of referendum on health care itself, no, i strongly disagree. obama care cannot be reduced to the website. and in many ways it already has been successful. all the people who were not in the health caroline who are in it now, i
he took seriously ever. >>te secretary, secretary -- separately, secretary sebelius said she did not rely on this data, but we have since learned that only six people signed up on the first day -- >> for my republican committee is that there are notes out there from a contractor that make estimates about figures related to enrollees in the early process. what is important to know is that the website was not functioning very well on october 1 or october 2. in fact, it had not been functioning well in the first month since the launch. that is what the president is focused on. making sure that everything is done to bring the website up to the standards he has for it. the implication from this disclosure is that the website was not working effectively october 1, i think that is a dog bites man story. we know that. compiledwe have fully data about enrollment in the middle of this month for october, we will release a, which is what we said prior to launch. but it is also instructive to remember that setting aside any problems with the website, we knew and told you in advance that there
is changing car insurance for good. >>> health and human secretary kathleen sebelius says the president didn't know about obama care website problems. this isn't the first time we heard that excuse he didn't know. >> do you know when he first knew there was a problem? >> well, i think it became fairly clear early on the first couple of days -- >> not before that, not before october 1st there was no concern at that point in the white house or hhs? >> let me take the irs situation first. i first learned about it from the same news reports i think most people learned about this. i think it was on friday. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. >> not sure the exact date but i probably heard about fast and furious the first time over the last few weeks. >> we are honored to have on our set dana perino, co-host of "the five" and white house press secretary for george w. bush. >> and the owner of jasper. >> if you don't follow dana on twitter, you should. the world's most handsome dog. you were at the podium for a long time. what's the impulse to say the president didn't know. is it an effor
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